tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post2110451960067679549..comments2023-04-02T09:35:25.342-05:00Comments on University of Chicago Lab School: Escape the Box 2011Peggy Doylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14370361262009536471noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-25658696180509144802011-10-17T23:33:01.154-05:002011-10-17T23:33:01.154-05:00There is an abstract connection between "Sylv...There is an abstract connection between "Sylvia's Story" and "Phone Booth at the Corner". Sylvia is in an invisible box bounded by her parent's culture and rules while Grandpa is bounded by a physical box, the phone booth. Sylvia's mom always wants Sylvia to be a typical Mexican girl like her cousins, and that is not she wants to be. Sylvia wants to go to college and do digital effects for movies. Grandpa was trapped inside the phone booth because he could not speak and read English and do not know how the phone booth door works. Both stories are about being trapped, one with cultural expectations and the other with physical device. Sylvia's box is created by her family and Grandpa's box is created by his language barrier. Both characters show their unhappiness and frustration with the traps. <br /><br />Becky Doyle 1-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-57321129339713518812011-10-06T09:50:28.669-05:002011-10-06T09:50:28.669-05:00I think that Sylvia's Story and Crickets are c...I think that Sylvia's Story and Crickets are connected. Bobby and Sylvia are both first generation Americans. Both Sylvia and Bobby want to be all American children. Their parents, on the other hand, want them to stay true to their original culture. The last connection between Bobby and Sylvia is that they are both more comfortable in American society then their parents.<br /><br />Elena Doyle 1/2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-22243787161880091162011-09-30T19:26:41.147-05:002011-09-30T19:26:41.147-05:00I think that HYWT and Sylvia's story are conne...I think that HYWT and Sylvia's story are connected because In both of them, they face having two deal with two different worlds. I HYWT, the girl is struggling because she lived in two worlds, and she could be her self in either of them. In Sylvia, Sylvia has two deal with her families stereotype of a woman, but she wants to go to collage and get an education. In both of the stories, characters deal with two different worlds, and have a lot of trouble trying to fit in. <br /><br />Clyde period 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-21510704083425848712011-09-29T09:19:56.290-05:002011-09-29T09:19:56.290-05:00I think that HYWT and Slyvia's Story are simil...I think that HYWT and Slyvia's Story are similar because Lisa Page and Slyvia are both trying to escape the "box" that there parents have created for them. And both of them are feeling out of place in the "box". But there parents will not let them out even though they want something different for there futures and for themselves.<br /><br />Mica <br />Doyle 1-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-13602618596898535932011-09-26T12:55:14.156-05:002011-09-26T12:55:14.156-05:00Hyder Doyle 6-7
I think HYWT is like Sylvia's ...Hyder Doyle 6-7<br />I think HYWT is like Sylvia's story because they both talk about escaping the box and they know they are in a box, They both are struggling toward the lid of the box and trying to tear it apart. there purpose in life is to fit in and just stop being held back because of culture and family history and expectations. They both want to be themselves, but there background is doing everything in its power to stop them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-84976858979271726002011-09-24T15:24:31.883-05:002011-09-24T15:24:31.883-05:00I think that they are connected because both of th...I think that they are connected because both of them want to escape the box that other people put them in, but there family is sort of against it, but the kids dont really care what the family thinks sylvia's in a hispanic box and lisa's in a half white half black box they are trying to escape the box but their parents keep on pushing them in it<br /><br />Jameel Doyle 1-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-81520423959297051912011-09-19T18:02:54.351-05:002011-09-19T18:02:54.351-05:00Hyder Doyle 6-7
I think that HYWT and "Sylivi...Hyder Doyle 6-7<br />I think that HYWT and "Sylivia's story" are sendng the same message. in "Sylivia's story" they talk about escaping the box, and in HYWT the main character talks about being different and not fitting in, witch is the same concept. So in all i think that they are trapped and they reliase that and thats what shows simularity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-11693721622681382632011-09-17T18:58:27.840-05:002011-09-17T18:58:27.840-05:00I think there is a connection between High Yellow ...I think there is a connection between High Yellow White Trash (HYWT) and Sylvia’s story. There is a connection in that both characters want to be something there parents (or in HYWT parent) wants then not to be. Like in Sylvia story she wants to break out of the Mexican Box and be in the American box but here parents are very unhappy about that and so are very protective about her Mexican heritage. And in HYWT she wants to break out of this stereotypical white box and wants to be in the stereotypical black box. But her Mom has not interest what so ever of her doing that and so she has to but on her white person disguise. <br />Bailey period 1-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-46739630596659002932011-09-16T20:35:50.479-05:002011-09-16T20:35:50.479-05:00I think that “Theme for English B” and “The Phone ...I think that “Theme for English B” and “The Phone Booth at the Corner” is similar. I think their similar in the main characters feel the same way, as they are the only ones of their kind. In “Theme for English B” the text reference is on page 24 line 10 “ I am the only colored person in my class”. In “The Phone Booth at the Corner” the text reference on page 7 paragraphs 3 line 3 “forgetting he only knew Spanish”. Also another way they are similar is they really put them self in the box and knew that they was a place outside side the box were they fit in. But they chose to be in the box. Which makes me think their brave.<br /><br />Eleanor Period 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-50460096069607496382011-09-16T07:27:33.158-05:002011-09-16T07:27:33.158-05:00I think Sylvia's story and HYWT are connected ...I think Sylvia's story and HYWT are connected because the main characters moms are both creating boxes for their daughters to live in. Sylvia's mom wants her to be a typical Mexican girl and Lisa's mom wants her to be a typical white girl. they are both trying to escape.<br />Nigel Doyle 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-6058029234169033282011-09-16T06:56:33.880-05:002011-09-16T06:56:33.880-05:00In Sylvia's story she was put in her box by he...In Sylvia's story she was put in her box by her family, by society, and by tradition. If her brother wanted anything the mom wasn't even hesitate to do it. Sylia did not like the box and was fighting an uphill battle to get out. She didn't want to be like her 16 yr old preganant cousin. She wanted to wait till she was married, out of college, and settled down. Sylvia what would seem like a long war with her mother and society about being sexsist.<br />In "Theme for English B" the young color adult was placed in a much larger box than Syvia but he fought his battle probably all through his life. In "TEB" he is from a small town and comes to large city to be in an ivy league school. He is taken out of his enviroment and put in a box. One he didnt choose for himself and although he was the only colored student in the class, his teacher was white, his peers were white. He might not be able to aford a dorm at night but that should seperate him from the rest of the university and nor should the color of his skin.<br />Sylvia and the man have one thing in common and that is that they didn't choose their boxes. Society did.TaylorNicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09221742885422510924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-2524286584393529912011-09-16T06:54:56.955-05:002011-09-16T06:54:56.955-05:00I found a distinct connection between Sylvia's...I found a distinct connection between Sylvia's story and Crickets. I think that the way Sylvia is trying to escape the Mexican traditional box is very similar to the way Bill, from Crickets, is trying to break out of his father's Vietnamese box. Both show signs of wanting to get a decent schooling, and be a 100% American girl/boy. For example, in Crickets part of Bill's American disguise is caring more about his Reeboks, which symbolize all that is <br />American in him, than about his relationship with his father. Sylvia does not like the Mexican traditions because she does not want to be regarded as ineffectual, and married off at a young age. I think the similarities between the two are not surprising, as their stories follow the same lines. Their parents both immigrated to the USA, seeking a better life, but have found themselves reminiscing, and trying to do just the same things that they were doing in their homeland. Now the children, who both sets of parents want to raise to be just like them, and remember a country which they've never even been to.<br /> Isabella Period 1/2<br /><br />Sorry Ms Doyle don't publish the first comment, I forgot my nameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-45837027763945219632011-09-15T23:02:13.995-05:002011-09-15T23:02:13.995-05:00I found HYWT and Sylvia's Stories alike becaus...I found HYWT and Sylvia's Stories alike because the box that Sylvia's parents made for her, she is trying to get out of, but of course her parents don't want her to get out of that box. Lisa's family from HYWT want her to stay in their box also. The reason i think they are alike is because they both want to escape the box that their families want them to be in.<br /><br />Marcellus <br />Doyle 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-44385611922727198042011-09-15T22:26:11.988-05:002011-09-15T22:26:11.988-05:00I think that HYWT and Sylvia's story are alike...I think that HYWT and Sylvia's story are alike because they both want to be their own person, but not forget their roots. Like how in HYWT she says that HYWT sums up that "your black but aware of your white heritage".In Sylvia's story she says she wants to be apart of her family but she doesn't want to be like her cousins or her mother.<br />JULIA <br />PD 1-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-64806464477200069532011-09-15T22:19:29.453-05:002011-09-15T22:19:29.453-05:00I found a connection between High Yellow White Tra...I found a connection between High Yellow White Trash and Sylvia’s Story. Both Lisa Paige from HYWT and Sylvia are put into cultural boxes. In Sylvia’s life she was born into and raised in a traditional Mexican box built by her family. Sylvia tries to escape the box and become more like an American girl but her mom blocks her way. Sylvia’s mom wants her to become a typical Mexican girl like her cousins. While Sylvia wants to follow her dreams and go to school. Lisa from HYWT was born in a biracial box and when her parents divorced she had to go into different disguises depending on who she was with, a white box for her mother and a black box for her father, “It was split right down the middle: the white world of my mother and the black world of my father.” Lisa’s boxes are different though, her black box is that she can fit in when she is with her dad and her black friends. Around her black friends Lisa uses slang and talks loudly. Lisa’s white box is used so she fits in around her white friends but her white box is mainly driven by her mom who thinks Lisa should use proper grammar, act more “white” and basically stop doing anything related to black culture. Personally I think Lisa is more black than white but she isn’t fully black, no one is. “It’s much easier to see things literally in black and white. But our lives are made up of gray areas that are not so easy to define.”So the connection I found between these two stories is both girls want to be something that they weren’t born into. And both girls are being held back by their moms to do the things they want to do.<br /><br />Katherine Doyle 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-27503963721343229292011-09-15T22:09:04.225-05:002011-09-15T22:09:04.225-05:00I think that Lisa Paige does the right thing by no...I think that Lisa Paige does the right thing by not trying to escape the "box" but improvising. I admire how she disguises herself in the different communities.She deals with the so called "box" very well in the story. Sylvia on the other hand needs her family to support her but also wants to escape them and the stereotypical Mexican "box". I think Sylvia should countinue to stay in connection with her family but continue to escape the "box".Kyle Adlaka per 6-7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-8311613972823247542011-09-15T22:08:36.900-05:002011-09-15T22:08:36.900-05:00I think that "Theme for English B" and H...I think that "Theme for English B" and HYWT are connected because in both stories, the author is trying to escape their "box" and describe the stereotypes and expectations of others unwillingly force them into "boxes". In one case, the author is telling his teacher it's wrong to judge based on the color of ones skin, and in the other, the same message just in a different way. <br /><br />Payton Doyle 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-80082934459217651172011-09-15T21:52:57.878-05:002011-09-15T21:52:57.878-05:00In Silvia's story Silvia faces her family as a...In Silvia's story Silvia faces her family as a challenge because her family doesn't think her ideas should be put to action. Silvia believes that she can make her own decisions and not have to be told what and what not to do in her life. Silvia's story relates to "Phone Booth at the Corner" because the grandfather struggles with opening the door of the phone booth which is similar to the situation of Silvia and her family. I think these people will escape their boxes because when people actually try they can succeed. The fact that Silvia's family disagrees with her decisions already puts her in a box and while the grandfather doesn't speak English makes him struggle and when he can't get out of the phone booth he struggles even more because he doesn't know what to do.<br /><br />Tiffany Doyle 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-808554112008233012011-09-15T21:25:58.704-05:002011-09-15T21:25:58.704-05:00I feel a connection between the grandpa and Sylvia...I feel a connection between the grandpa and Sylvia. The Grandpa stuck in the phone booth, Sylvia by her family. Although in different boxes, they both have to deal with stereotypes, both are trying their best to fit in, but neither will ever be a true American, in the American box, living the American life. Eventually they realize that if they stop pushing so hard, it will present itself. Although Sylvia speaks English better than the grandpa, her family restrains her. It ends up being the same.<br /><br />Jonathan Period 1-2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-46140872959165800562011-09-15T21:09:07.325-05:002011-09-15T21:09:07.325-05:00I found a connection between "Crickets" ...I found a connection between "Crickets" and "The Phone Booth On The Corner." In "Crickets" the dad is trying to find a way to make his son Bill interested in Vietnamese things and wants to bond with him. In "The Phone Booth On The Corner" The Grandpa is trying to bond with his grandson by going to the local bar and hanging out there.<br /><br />My second connection is Between "Crickets" and Sylvia's story in "Crickets" the dad tries to Bond with his son by teaching him about cricket fighting. Bill wants to grow up to be american and Ted wants bill to grow up Vietnamese. In Sylvia's story sylvia wants to grow up like a normal american kid and get an education and go to collage. Her mom wants her to grow up like she would in mexico and not go to collage.<br /><br />Nick Period 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-74858410101764222122011-09-15T20:57:38.006-05:002011-09-15T20:57:38.006-05:00Sylvia (“Sylvia’s Story”) and Lisa (“High Yellow W...Sylvia (“Sylvia’s Story”) and Lisa (“High Yellow White Trash”) are both girls being “tugged” or pulled from one box to another, back and forth by their hearts and by their families. They both want to get out of their boxes and be more true to themselves but they also feel reluctant because they love their family and don’t want to upset their parents. Both girls feel pressure to conform to the expectations of their parents. <br /><br />After Lisa’s parents get their divorce she is torn between being in her mother’s “white box” or being in her father’s “black box”. Lisa seems to prefer her dad’s box. Part of Lisa wants to be black because they are “more loose and relaxed, they talk faster and have more than one language etc.” . But she loves her mom very much and her mom puts Lisa in a “white box”. Her mother wants her to take ballet, read classic books, listen to classical music, speak properly and basically act like a white girl. Lisa is a girl who is not quite sure which box to be in and maybe she does not even want to be in either. <br /><br />Sylvia knows that she does not want to be your “typical Mexican girl”. She does not want to be a house wife and have a family at a young age. She wants to go to college and live the “American life” but her mother is standing in the way. Sylvia feels forced to be in the “mexican girl” box. Her mother wants her to cook and take care of the home and to have children at a young age and live the “mexican girl” life.<br /><br />Lisa and Sylvia are both put in boxes by one of the cultural identifiers. For Lisa it is race and for Sylvia it is ethnicity. For everyone their box is made from their cultural identifiers. Some people feel more comfortable in a box than others. Lisa is definitely not comfortable in her white box, but she is reluctant to stay in the black box even though she likes it there. Same with Sylvia, she is not comfortable in her “Mexican girl box”.<br /><br /><br />I think that Sylvia will get out because she seems driven to live the “American life”. I also think that evenyually her mother will accept the fact that she wants to follow her own path. I think Lisa Page, as she says in the story, will be in the “grays”. Not the whites, or the blacks, somewhere in-between. In the place, not the box, where her parents where when they were married. I think that there may be periodic tension between the daughters and their parents even after the girls become adults because of their differences. <br /><br /><br />Lucy, Doyle period 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-45404883624692297842011-09-15T20:39:20.002-05:002011-09-15T20:39:20.002-05:00I see a connection between Theme for English B and...I see a connection between Theme for English B and “Sylvia’s Story”. In “Sylvia’s Story” Sylvia is a girl who wants to be a regular American girl, who goes to school, and gets a job. She is fighting with her mother about having a traditional Mexican life where the girls do housework instead of getting a job. In Theme from English B, the man writing the poem wants to be like any other white citizen in the U.S. the time. He is colored so white people treat him differently than they would treat a normal white person. He likes the same things as white people do, but he is colored so they can not accept him in to society as a normal person. They are both fighting the same thing; race. Sylvia is fighting a Mexican tradition that says she has to be the person all of the women of the family were. In Theme for English B he is fighting racial injustice that does not allow him to be the person that he wants to be, which is basically white. <br />Both characters do not have a disguise; they are stating who they are in the poem and in the interview. Sylvia does not even try to be like a traditional Mexican girl, she does not like to do her chores, or cook. She listens to American music tells her mother over and over again that she wants to be an American girl. In Theme for English B he is telling his instructor that white and black are similar. He also says, that he likes things similar to what white people like such as, music, presents, and going to one of the best schools in America<br />The factors that put these characters in the box that they are in are race. The boxes these characters are put in are by their race, Sylvia by Mexican family tradition, and the man in Theme for English B by race. I think Sylvia will escape the box because she is driven to be an American girl. In Theme for English B he is determined to be like a white person, but most of the white part of the country at the time is determined not to let that happen. In Sylvia’s case she is put in a box by her mother, but in Theme for English B he is put in a box by society because he is colored. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Andrew period 6-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-70382156684506195192011-09-15T20:10:22.343-05:002011-09-15T20:10:22.343-05:00"High Yellow White Trash" and "Syl..."High Yellow White Trash" and "Sylvia's Story"<br /><br />Benji<br />Period 6-7 <br />Doyle<br /><br />It think that High Yellow White Trash and Sylvia's Story are similar because both main characters want to be different that what they really are. Theresa does not want to be white and Sylvia does not want to be Mexican. Theresa started using slang in front of her mom and her other white relatives Which shows disrespect and that she does not really want to be white. They both are stuck between too worlds/costumes. <br />Theresa always used a disguise in front of white people whereas Sylvia's disguise is mostly in front of everyone.Benjiwitt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/17342699601402606496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-25652338493935767692011-09-15T19:45:20.347-05:002011-09-15T19:45:20.347-05:00It's almost as though the stories kind of go u...It's almost as though the stories kind of go up on a scale of metaphor-ness... starting with Theme for English B, which was subtle even covering the fact that he was dealing with a stereotype at all (or maybe it just took us a while to find the idea because it was our first try), going up to Phone Booth at the Corner, in which the grandfather is literally stuck in a box. Sylvia's Story comes in a close second, as she mentions a box but isn't physically stuck in one. A box was never mentioned in High Yellow White Trash, but it was apparent that she was caught in one. In terms of challenges and which characters face them, ages vary as well. Starting from the top of the metaphor list, we never figured out how old the boy was-- but the grandfather had to be at least sixty, as said in the poem. One of the main points in Sylvia’s Story is that around the age of fourteen she began to like more American music, and the tape was recorded right before she turned 18. In terms of High Yellow White Trash, the narrator was grown up, speaking about the past. And Theme for English B was from the point of view of a 22-year-old college student. Because of that, they all obviously face different issues because their cultural identifiers vary-- for example, the narrator of Theme for English B faced that fact that, in the early fifties, he was the only African-American in his class. In High Yellow White Trash, however, it was from the point of view of a girl who had two different personas. Some distinct issues she had to deal with included the fact that she was built differently than the rest of her white classmates in ballet. But both of these people spoke fluent English, as far as we know. The grandfather in Phone Booth at the Corner couldn’t even do that. Someone who was more relatable to him would be Sylvia, who had to translate things for her parents, and would sometimes have to be the voice of authority whether she wanted to be or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36269954.post-15087625730504134512011-09-15T19:37:47.360-05:002011-09-15T19:37:47.360-05:00In "Phone Booth at the Corner", the gran...In "Phone Booth at the Corner", the grandpa is stuck in "The Box". In "Crickets", Bill is stuck in the U.S.A. box. Both the grandpa and Bill are kind of in the same situation because, they are stuck in the U.S.A box. The grandpa tries coming to the U.S.A for a bit and he can not do it because he only speaks Spanish. Bill is becoming more American and the grandpa cannot get out of the phone booth. The grandpa could escape from the box by going back to his home country but Bill could escape the box if he really studies Vietnamese culture or if he just goes to live in Vietnam with his family. I think that the grandpa could escape from the box but Bill could in a harder way. Grandpa got into the box because he came to the U.S.A. Bill has gotten in the box because he came to live in the U.S.A. In these cases, families and individuals created their boxes. <br />These two characters from different texts have gotten in strong situations. They could escape them but one could do it in an easier way than the other can.<br /><br />Christos "Doyle periods 1-2"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com